Some of the issues may be relatively off topic and other aspect of issue will
be relating one way or another, because art101 wrote lot of issues on all angle
about formerly Macromedia and Adobe Systems product and such issues mentioned
First of all, I, honestly, feel your pain and understand what you have gone
through with trouble you experienced with FreeHand. I think you need to set
your personal aside and focus on professional approach as I sense that you do
so well in digital vector art as you put it.
As for felt your pain with some aspect of merger or consolidation of Adobe and
Marcomedia, as you are, I was concerned about merger of Adobe and Macromedia at
the time when the executives announced the merger. I was overly concerned about
this for some reason. Sometimes merger or consolidation serves very good or for
a specific reason. On other hand, sometimes things fall through, or greedy
executives out to please stockholders of these companies they own stocks.
Sometimes I don't buy their reasons or implications to please stockholders.
On other hand, I happen to be valuable customer of formerly Macromedia and
Adobe Systems for years. Both develop and support wonderful, great products. As
you probably already know that Adobe System and formerly Macromedia had a long
history of suing each other over UI patent and other important issues. Not only
that, but as digital arts (including graphic, web and print, as well as your
profession in digital vector arts) evolve as time go.
I am sorry to recognize that you, art101, had gone through a difficult time
dealing with FreeHand, considering or concerning a couple of issues that you
and other forum participants have discussed about those issue already. Some of
it are way off base and not valid, but some are correct, though. However, I
believe that formerly Macromedia, prior to merger of Adobe and Macromedia,
recognized that FreeHand was a weak product, and reallocated their resource or
tool to focus more on Flash and Dreamweaver software development and
engineering that what contributed to the reason Adobe eventually acquired
Prior to the merger of Adobe and Macromedia, I have use Photoshop for years.
So is with PageMill (and SiteMill) years ago at Adobe System. At the time when
Adobe acquired GoLive from a small, innovative German-based software company (I
believe that Adobe acquired the entire company, I could be wrong, it has been
some years since that happened). So, Adobe replaced PageMill/SiteMill with
GoLive, and consolidating some of PageMill/SiteMill technologies into GoLive.
That was when I encountered some issues and was concerned about GoLive. To that
end, I was not totally satsified with the implemention of acqustion of GoLive
and that effected PageMill/SiteMill. But I went ahead and shallow my pride and
learn to work with GoLive for a while. Somehow Macromedia developed Dreamweaver
around the same time as Adobe acquired GoLive from that German-based company.
That is to say, I happened to notice that Dreamweaver quickly caught lot of
attention of other web designers like myself. Somehow, Dreamweaver gained and
built, as well as won over many designers to buy and use Dreamweaver. Of
course, it was some challenge for me to get used to Macromedia UI interactive
as opposed to Adobe UI interactive.
I am not going to discuss about Dreamweaver or GoLive or all that relating to
web design in depth. But some of issues relating to your or my experience
dealing with the merger of Adobe and Macromedia and what might will affect the
products or services. It is early to say that right now, really. But I really
believe and think that Adobe did the right thing about long-term approach to
develop and make many great products as to "betterment" of all products
gradually as time go.
I'd prefer that Adobe acquire Macromedia, rather than Microsoft Corporation
acquire Macromedia -- had if Microsoft Corporation acquired Macromedia, I can
guaratee you, art101, that M$ have a long history of messing things around with
many wonderful, innovative products or software developed by other small, tiny
software companies. Just because Microsoft felt threatened by the innovations.
Adobe is opposite of Microsoft in its entirety. For example, if you look at
history and experience with Windows users as opposed as Apple's innovative
system architecture, or M$ as opposed to Adobe's approach. Adobe do an
excellent job in a thorough, I mean thoroughly testing all of angles of ongoing
gradual improvement or developing innovative technologies in many of Adobe
Systems products. So did with formerly Macromedia.
Somehow the competition seem to get smaller and smaller as time go, that is to
say Microsoft Corporation developed their own strange world of developing their
so-called standards web design apps and web servers and all that. Actually, M$
like to claim that theirs are best or better than others. We all know that
there were so many bug problems and products are not working so well as
intended or as claimed by high quality or best software applications as it was
suppose to be that way. M$ mess things around and they have many thousand of
programmers, lot of street smarties... worst of all, they failed to deliver
great products. We all know that M$ spent billions of dollars on marketing
budget, where not many small software companies do not have the budget to do
so. I meant no offense to be baised aganist Microsoft, but that is how it is. I
waste no time struggling with Windows applications, because I know what works
best with Macs for years. Macs work beautifully and wonderfully with graphic
design, web and photo for years.
Anyway, I really think and believe that Adobe Systems will probably be
borrowing some of FreeHand's innovative technolgies into Adobe illustrator.
But, let's say if Microsoft acquired Macromedia, I'd bet you that they are
going to f--- around and mess around with Flash, FreeHand, Dreamweaver and all
other products that Macromedia works so hard for years, and M$ pass it off,
shove things up and doesn't know what to do with it... as it should... and M$
executives leave the dirty job to marketing department to paint the pretty
pictures to offset the messy products, buggy problems... So if M$ did bought
Macromedia, I'd bet you, art101, that M$ put FreeHand aside and act nothing to
make it better or develop better. Mabye the could borrow some of FH technology
into MS product but eventually never bother to update or being more creative,
being more innovator to develop a better FreeHand product as time go.
Enuf babbling and I probably bore you already.
In other words, I really think and believe that Adobe will probably do a good
job with all of Macromedia technologies. Please understand and know that Adobe
System have many wonderful innovative technologies. Together, as a result of
merger of Adobe and formerly Macromedia, this led to solidify "new" Adobe
System to compete better and more effectively and productively aganist
Microsoft Corporation's socalled web design and graphic design apps in the
works or under development over there at M$.
Perhaps I suggest that you might want to test drive Adobe Illustrator and move
on. I am sorry that you like FreeHand so much and recognize that nothing seem
to make it better. Perhaps that you want to address some of issues with Adobe
Illustrator team with your feedback. Perhaps that you might be interested to be
Adobe Illustrator beta tester and make some goood, great suggestions to Adobe
Illustrator beta development and engineering team. I can assure you that they
will be very happy to have your valuable, positive insights about what works,
whatnot and what features you like to see that happen in Illustrator.
I am pretty sure that Illsutrator engineering team are well-aware of issues
around FreeHand technologies and things like that.
I hope that my suggestion be of an interest, an eye-opener and possible
opportunity for you to consider and look at different angles. I hope so.
All in all, I strongly encourage you and other die-hard FreeHanders should
make some valuable feedback and make good suggestions about whatever features
that you want to see it happen in Illustrator, as any with other applications
under development at Adobe System.
It is wonderful opportunity for you and other forum participants to
participate beta testing stage, because CS3 is currently under development and
currently undergone with beta testing stages. With that in mind, it is
enormous, important opportunity for all formerly Macromedia and longtime Adobe
customers/users to participate wonderful beta programs to make future releases
of creative products a better, high-quality applications.
I hope that you, art101, have an open-mind approach and take a different angle
and focus on bright future of Adobe products and how Adobe products enpowers or
help promote your creativity world of digital vector arts per se.
Finally, I hope that helps. For those who think and discover this discussion,
especially my suggestion or something I have said bore you.. I am sorry. I hope
this consider to be eye-opener for diehard FreeHand customers/users. Not only
just that with FreeHand, it also applies similar approach with all other
formerly Macromedia and Adobe products -- that evolves into CS3 products in
next release and future releases as well.
Your participation to this forum is important. Please try to understand that
this forum discussion is based on volunteer basis and often not monitored by
Adobe System personnel. It is designed specifically for user-to-user forum
participats helping other participants on same or similar common ground. Of
course, sometimes, out of the blue, there are some Adobe personnel participates
some forum discussion anywhere around Adobe Forums.