Updating Pantone Library

[rocco_77]

Hello.... Could someone PLEASE tell me how I can get an update for my Pantone
color library for FreeHand 10 for Mac OS X? I can't seem to find support for
it on the Macromedia site, and a search for the topic here revealed nothing...

Can someone help?

Thanks so much,

Roc

[tipograf]

I too have this problem and cannot find an answer. Can anyone help?

Many thanks,
Tipograf

[Armadillo]

Post by tipograf
I too have this problem and cannot find an answer. Can anyone help?

There is probably no update but you can of course make your own 'extension' to the library - if you need just a few colors.

- Create a new spot colors using rgb values (if possible copy from Photoshop for example) Make sure that color mode is rgb and spot for each color.
- Name the colors like other Pantone Colors, like 'PANTONE 131 C'.
- Select the new colors and export to a new library.

In color separation the name is important not the screen color value. For example if you export as eps and place it into layout application all the colors with the same NAME will be printed on the same plate.

The RGB values for Pantone colors in FreeHand are not that accurate and if you do not check the colors from printed sample there can be some unpleasant surprises.

Jukka

[Bill]

Pantone also offers an EPS for download that contains the entire 'Solid to Process' library in the swatch list, including the 147 new "designer inspired" colors (7401c-7547c). This EPS file can be loaded into Freehand and then you can export the swatch list as a custom color library.

http://www.pantone.com/support/support.asp?idArticle=73&

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:06:16 -0800, Armadillo <***@newsgroup.pls> wrote:

[Armadillo]

Post by Bill
Pantone also offers an EPS for download that contains the entire 'Solid to Process' library in the swatch list, including the 147 new "designer inspired" colors (7401c-7547c). This EPS file can be loaded into Freehand and then you can export the swatch list as a custom color library.

Pantone is actually giving something - free. That is news!

All colors have PC in the en of the name, both Mac and PC files. Usually C is Coated, U is Uncoated and M is matte. What the heck is PC?

Jukka

[iehsmith]

Post by Armadillo

Post by Bill
Pantone also offers an EPS for download that contains the entire 'Solid to
Process' library in the swatch list, including the 147 new "designer
inspired" colors (7401c-7547c). This EPS file can be loaded into Freehand and
then you can export the swatch list as a custom color library.

Pantone is actually giving something - free. That is news!
All colors have PC in the en of the name, both Mac and PC files. Usually C is
Coated, U is Uncoated and M is matte. What the heck is PC?
Jukka

AFAIK, it's Pantone Coated (best guess). But the point is that they work as
spot, AND, if you "Make Process" it has the correct CMYK values in it
already.

I actually haven't downloaded the tutorials/support files to go with them.

Nice that the reference files work across each other with the same name and
process values built in; so "Pantone 7488 PC = 53-0-80-0" is the same in
Freehand, Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Quark, etc.

inez

[Bill]

PC stands for Process Coated, I think. I think the values may be for Pantone color matches within a CMYK gamut, but I'm not certain of this. The Solid to process library was the only one I could find a reference to.

What I did when the 147 new colors started being spec'ed by clients was to load the Illustrator Pantone library's new colors into an Illustrator document's swatch list and exported this .ai document as an EPS file. Importing the EPS into Freehand allowed me to export the colors to a custom library, which I named Pantone147.bcf. I load colors out of this custom library as needed.
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Bill
FHMXa/WinXP/Athlon2500+/1GB

Post by Armadillo

Post by Bill
Pantone also offers an EPS for download that contains the entire 'Solid to Process' library in the swatch list, including the 147 new "designer inspired" colors (7401c-7547c). This EPS file can be loaded into Freehand and then you can export the swatch list as a custom color library.

Pantone is actually giving something - free. That is news!
All colors have PC in the en of the name, both Mac and PC files. Usually C is Coated, U is Uncoated and M is matte. What the heck is PC?
Jukka

[Armadillo]

Post by Bill
PC stands for Process Coated, I think. I think the values may be for Pantone color matches within a CMYK gamut, but I'm not certain of this. The Solid to process library was the only one I could find a reference to.

In FreeHand's Pantone Process Coated Library as well as in Illustrator colors are named like PANTONE DS 333-9 C.

Post by Bill
Pantone color matches within a CMYK gamut

That is not a long list, I have not found a single exact match yet. ;-)

PC seems to be Solid to Process Library after all.

Jukka

[Bill]

True enough. There are no such things as exact matches with color in any case, only greater or lesser degrees of tolerance subject to certain lighting conditions.

[iehsmith]

Post by Bill
There are no such things as exact matches with color in any case, only greater
or lesser degrees of tolerance subject to certain lighting conditions.

Exactly. I figure, since I can't afford an EyeOne, etc. I may as well trust
Pantone for conversion values for process. Thank goodness my work isn't
color critical for now;) But I think the use of the word "match" throws a
lot of people off.

If I could afford it I'd be curious enough to by Pantones supposed matching
for RGB. That's unimaginable to me. Seems like you'd have to be able to take
virtual control over the viewer's monitor. Ha!

inez

[iehsmith]

Post by Bill
Pantone also offers an EPS for download that contains the entire 'Solid to
Process' library in the swatch list, including the 147 new "designer inspired"
colors (7401c-7547c). This EPS file can be loaded into Freehand and then you
can export the swatch list as a custom color library.

The color bridge download also contains them too in additional to the
prebuilt swatches/library, but broken down into separate files:
100-1685 PC.eps
169-249 PC.eps
250-2965 PC.eps
297-364 PC.eps
365-CL GY 5 PC.eps
5115-573 PC.eps
574-676 PC.eps
677-7456 PC.eps
7457-7547 PC.eps
CL GY 6-517 PC.eps
100-1685 PC.tif
169-249 PC.tif
250-2965 PC.tif
297-364 PC.tif
365-CL GY 5 PC.tif
5115-573 PC.tif
574-676 PC.tif
677-7456 PC.tif
7457-7547 PC.tif
CL GY 6-517 PC.tif
PANTONE(R) color brid#145A4.pdf
PANTONE color bridge #145A8.TXT

But, why open/export them as a custom library when the application specific
swatches are provided? They all contain the new designer colors, AFAIK. I
may be missing something becasue I'm only using FH9.

I just use the PDF for quick finds when I'm seeking an application
independent conversion value.

inez

[iehsmith]

Post by tipograf
I too have this problem and cannot find an answer. Can anyone help?
Many thanks,
Tipograf

I've just popped into the group through nntp and can't see the question you
responded to, so this may not be relevant.

If you are looking for new Pantone swatches you can register/login to the
mypantone area of the pantone.com site. There you can get the free download
files for Pantone color bridge which includes swatches for Freehand, Adobe
products, Quark; along with EPS, TIFF and PDF charts. The color bridge
swatches have the Pantone conversion to CMYK conversion values built in (as
best as possible, accordling to Pantone).

Just download and drop the file in the Color folder; you're set.

hth,
inez