Discussion:
FreeHand MX and Tiger users READ THIS!
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Ron Rockwell
2005-04-29 17:05:23 UTC
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Here's the latest from Macromedia concerning FreeHand and Tiger.


http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18893


Check it out.

Some of you will freak out - you can't Show Grids or Snap to Grid!

There are some printing issues that will be killer, too.

Hang on - this might be a rough ride.


Ron
davecc
2005-04-29 17:57:45 UTC
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And the Band Played On
Acumowchek
2005-04-29 19:10:44 UTC
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Don't worry!
I'm sure Macromedia will release an update soon!
[/sarcasm]
Judy Arndt
2005-04-29 19:16:33 UTC
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Post by Acumowchek
Don't worry!
I'm sure Macromedia will release an update soon!
[/sarcasm]
Really makes you wonder if anyone on the FreeHand team was testing and
communicating with Apple during the beta-testing phase of Tiger.

Grrr ...

Judy Arndt
Angusdog
2005-05-01 11:08:13 UTC
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Plus I can't turn snap to grid off. The workaround (until Macromedia get around
to fixing this) that I'm using is to use a miniscule number for the grid size.

Was Macromedia told and send pre-release copies of Tiger? I'm thinking they
were, being one of Apple's biggest partners, so I'd like to have seen a fix for
this ready NOW!

The is a royal PIA as I've converted Mail to V2, so can't migrate back. Plus,
some of these workaround involve opening the document up in 10, or 11.0. WHO
has those available, given the activation issues with 11.0,1? Maybe exporting
it as Illustrator and converting that document back might help with some of the
problems that people WILL have, given I've found an apparently undocumented
issue with FHMX & Tiger (Gosh I feel so honoured...)
davecc
2005-05-02 10:50:58 UTC
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Angusdog,

Does the snap to grid issue also affect FH10? Has anyone else on ths thread tried FH10 with Tiger?

David
Rastermon
2005-09-27 19:18:21 UTC
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Originally posted by: davecc
Angusdog,

Does the snap to grid issue also affect FH10? Has anyone else on ths thread
tried FH10 with Tiger?

David

I have FH10 and Tiger -- grid snap works fine..

But 9 times out of 10, when I go to page setup, the dang app crashes!
Any Ideas?
Rastermon
Judy Arndt
2005-05-02 15:39:48 UTC
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Post by Angusdog
Plus I can't turn snap to grid off. The workaround (until Macromedia get around
to fixing this) that I'm using is to use a miniscule number for the grid size.
Saw this at MacFixit:
http://www.macfixit.com/

"Third-party application compatibility

"As noted in our Preparing for Tiger special report, many problems with
individual applications that occur after a major Mac OS X update can be
solved by deleting corrupt .plist files."

The FHMX .plist is in
[user] /Library/Preferences/com.macromedia.freehand.11.plist

You might try deleting it and see if it turns off the grid.

Judy Arndt
aherrera
2005-05-02 18:59:11 UTC
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Has anyone experience any issues with the font size pull-down menu?

When I set some type and adjust the font size it works fine. But the minute I
deselect and then select again, there's a flashing cursor in the font size
field and the size has reverted back to 24 (the default size), but the actual
type I've set stays the same. Real unsure of what's going on here...
Judy Arndt
2005-05-02 21:11:48 UTC
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Post by aherrera
Has anyone experience any issues with the font size pull-down menu?
When I set some type and adjust the font size it works fine. But the minute I
deselect and then select again, there's a flashing cursor in the font size
field and the size has reverted back to 24 (the default size), but the actual
type I've set stays the same. Real unsure of what's going on here...
If this is a new occurrence under Mac OS X 10.4, Tiger, then I suggest you
report it to the bug report form:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/?6213=10

I hope someone from MM is monitoring this list, but you never know ...

Judy Arndt
plummerdesign
2005-05-03 01:01:42 UTC
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neat.
Sorry to see Tiger is giving fits. What a hassle going 7 to 8.6 to 9.
whatever to OSX to OS10.2 to.....
Thankfully much of my work is done on the WIN workstations. The Mac runs
Jaguar, period. Stopped with that one, as it works pretty good. After reading
the Mac user forums- upgrading to Tiger looks tricky for a LOT of programmes.
The 64 bit issue is testy as well.
Makes me glad Microsoft is taking the time to be certain on the next version
of Windows.
A columnist on ZDnet wrote that it was good for Adobe to grab Macromedia,
before Microsoft could. Guess they were out kicking tires too!
-Jeffery
Christiern
2005-05-04 00:39:04 UTC
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Freehand Files created while running Panther have messed-up fonts when I bring
them up under Tiger. Expecting some problems, I kept Panther intact on another
drive, and I am able to bring up my files in that environment without font
distortion. However, now when I want to print the file from Freehand, I get a
"not enough memory" message! I have 1Gb of RAM, so that's nonsense.

Has anyone else experienced/solved this problem?

Chris Albertson
Judy Arndt
2005-05-04 03:45:52 UTC
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Post by Christiern
Freehand Files created while running Panther have messed-up fonts when I bring
them up under Tiger.
What do you mean by 'messed up'?

I'm not disputing your claim. Just curious as I'm still on Panther and won't
make the move to Tiger until it's safe to do so.

Judy Arndt
Pappy
2005-05-04 11:43:51 UTC
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Plummer D,

Hasn't Microsoft been certain on all of its software? Certain that their
software has no security problems, is stable, and is resiliant to virus
infection....Oh wait, maybe that was some other company. I sure wish Apple
would quit improving their software as quickly, so MS could catch up and we
could watch a real race. Maybe in the spirit of fair play Apple would be kind
enough to send over a few of their programmers to help out with Longhorn since
its seems to be running behind.....by a few years. :)

This thread isnt about new technology being added to an existing OS as much as
it is about what happens when a major application manufacturer is asleep at the
wheel. So lets not get into an OS pissing contest.

Pappy
tasbean
2005-05-20 21:23:36 UTC
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I also was having numerous problems with not only Freehand MX, but almost every
application in the Macromedia Suite 2004 after an OSX Tiger upgrade. My first
problem was that I was unable to load any of them from the
dock. I resolved that by downloading and installing the English version of the
hotfix noted elseware.

Unfortunately, was still experiencing problems with Freehand MX in that the
shift key no longer proportionally scaled objects, I couldn't select multiple
objects, every function involving the option key (including zooming in and
out) didn't work and I couldn't pan across the screen using spacebar +
dragging. All these issues came about after the Tiger upgrade.

I finally got an answer from Macromedia and it has solved the problem for the
most part, although the grid thing still doesn't work. Here's what they told me:

Thanks for contacting Macromedia Technical Support.

It is indeed a known issue with FreeHand MX that shortcut keys do not work if
Entourage is also open together with FreeHand MX.

I found the e-mail that has the issue regarding MS Entourage affecting the
shortcut keys of FreeHand, and I was able to specifically retrieve one customer
incident that has the same issue as yours. I have contacted the customer to get
more information on his issue with Entourage and here is what he told me.

"When I first updated to the new Office, the shortcut keys stopped working.
But, only when Entourage was open. I do not recall if it was a problem with
Word, PowerPoint, etc. If I closed the Entourage application, the FreeHand
shortcuts would resume working. I did finally fix the problem, but I don't
think it was the easy way. I just deleted every Microsoft Office related
program (both versions and all application support) on my computer and
reinstalled only the newest version. This fixed the shortcut key problem, but I
was at square one as far as the preferences, calendar, etc. in Entourage.

My boss upgraded the new Office the day after I did. She had no problems until
a few days ago. I would say that she had it installed and working properly, not
affecting the shortcuts, for 3 weeks. Now she is experiencing the same problem
I was, but not willing to fix it the way I did. She doesn't want to lose all
the info in Entourage that I lost. She is also experiencing the same problem
with Photoshop CS.
Sounds like a serious problem that, not you, but Microsoft needs to fix. I
will try to file an incident with them."


On another note, here is what the Tech from Microsoft suggested, which, might
work on your end as well. They e-mailed me:

"In our testing here that if the "Save password in my Mac OS Keychain"
checkbox is NOT checked, we can reproduce your issue. Once this checkbox is
checked, the issue no longer occurs. Therefore, try the
following:
- Open Entourage 2004
- Open Freehand X and verify you can still reproduce the issue
- In Entourage 2004, click Tools -> Accounts
- Double-click the account you are using
- On the Account Settings tab, make sure the checkbox for "Save password in
my Mac OS Keychain" is checked
- If not, check it and enter a password in the password field
- Exit and close Entourage 2004
- once fully closed, re-open Entourage 2004
- switch back to Freehand X and test the affected keyboard command
combinations"

I would suggest doing the Microsoft's workaround first, and if it does not
work on your end, perhaps you can try reinstalling Entourage on your machine.
You can also contact Microsoft if they have already found a fix to this
particular issue.

Let me know of your progress.

Hope that helps some of you folks out there.
tasbean
2005-05-20 21:24:09 UTC
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I also was having numerous problems with not only Freehand MX, but almost every
application in the Macromedia Suite 2004 after an OSX Tiger upgrade. My first
problem was that I was unable to load any of them from the
dock. I resolved that by downloading and installing the English version of the
hotfix noted elseware.

Unfortunately, was still experiencing problems with Freehand MX in that the
shift key no longer proportionally scaled objects, I couldn't select multiple
objects, every function involving the option key (including zooming in and
out) didn't work and I couldn't pan across the screen using spacebar +
dragging. All these issues came about after the Tiger upgrade.

I finally got an answer from Macromedia and it has solved the problem for the
most part, although the grid thing still doesn't work. Here's what they told me:

Thanks for contacting Macromedia Technical Support.

It is indeed a known issue with FreeHand MX that shortcut keys do not work if
Entourage is also open together with FreeHand MX.

I found the e-mail that has the issue regarding MS Entourage affecting the
shortcut keys of FreeHand, and I was able to specifically retrieve one customer
incident that has the same issue as yours. I have contacted the customer to get
more information on his issue with Entourage and here is what he told me.

"When I first updated to the new Office, the shortcut keys stopped working.
But, only when Entourage was open. I do not recall if it was a problem with
Word, PowerPoint, etc. If I closed the Entourage application, the FreeHand
shortcuts would resume working. I did finally fix the problem, but I don't
think it was the easy way. I just deleted every Microsoft Office related
program (both versions and all application support) on my computer and
reinstalled only the newest version. This fixed the shortcut key problem, but I
was at square one as far as the preferences, calendar, etc. in Entourage.

My boss upgraded the new Office the day after I did. She had no problems until
a few days ago. I would say that she had it installed and working properly, not
affecting the shortcuts, for 3 weeks. Now she is experiencing the same problem
I was, but not willing to fix it the way I did. She doesn't want to lose all
the info in Entourage that I lost. She is also experiencing the same problem
with Photoshop CS.
Sounds like a serious problem that, not you, but Microsoft needs to fix. I
will try to file an incident with them."


On another note, here is what the Tech from Microsoft suggested, which, might
work on your end as well. They e-mailed me:

"In our testing here that if the "Save password in my Mac OS Keychain"
checkbox is NOT checked, we can reproduce your issue. Once this checkbox is
checked, the issue no longer occurs. Therefore, try the
following:
- Open Entourage 2004
- Open Freehand X and verify you can still reproduce the issue
- In Entourage 2004, click Tools -> Accounts
- Double-click the account you are using
- On the Account Settings tab, make sure the checkbox for "Save password in
my Mac OS Keychain" is checked
- If not, check it and enter a password in the password field
- Exit and close Entourage 2004
- once fully closed, re-open Entourage 2004
- switch back to Freehand X and test the affected keyboard command
combinations"

I would suggest doing the Microsoft's workaround first, and if it does not
work on your end, perhaps you can try reinstalling Entourage on your machine.
You can also contact Microsoft if they have already found a fix to this
particular issue.

Let me know of your progress.

Hope that helps some of you folks out there.
maxman23
2005-05-22 22:36:02 UTC
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Well, I just installed FHMX on a new Dual 2.3 running Tiger yesterday. Played
with opening files and printing them. No problems thus far. People upgrading to
Tiger with legacy machines would be well advised to do clean installs of both
the OS and the apps they work with. Starting fresh seems to help a great deal.

That said, I have not done any heavy lifting in FHMX on my new rig yet. That
will come in two days' time, when I am back at work. I hope to hell nothing
comes up. I also have the new Adobe suite on the drive... I'm trying to get
used to the idea that I will stop working in FH soon and that Illustrator will
replace it. I hate the idea, but what can you do... as JET has said, perhaps we
can expect to see some new things in the next Ilustrator that incorporate the
best features of FH... but not multiple pages - that's an InDesign thing and I
expect the Adobe people will want to keep it that way.

I'd settle for universal find and replace and an improved pasting inside
routine.... and I certainly welcome Adobe's nicer-looking interface.
Danny Whitehead
2005-05-23 12:45:30 UTC
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Post by maxman23
but not multiple pages - that's an InDesign thing and I
expect the Adobe people will want to keep it that way.
Unless we can make them understand that the way many/most people use
multiple pages in Freehand is completely different to the way we use
them in a page layout application, and convince them of the benefits of
Freehand's page and pasteboard behaviour in an illustration package.
--
Danny
Martin Sammtleben
2005-05-23 21:08:06 UTC
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Post by Danny Whitehead
Unless we can make them understand that the way many/most people use
multiple pages in Freehand is completely different to the way we use
them in a page layout application, and convince them of the benefits of
Freehand's page and pasteboard behaviour in an illustration package.
Exactly. Try setting up for instance pages of varying size in InDesign,
not much fun.
--
Cheers Martin
davecc
2005-05-23 19:42:28 UTC
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Max,

I also installed FH10 and MX on my new G5 2.7 (OS10.4.1) last friday aftrenoon
and today is the first day I really had time to test it. I spent the entire day
editing existing documents and printed a couple files to my imagesetter and
laser printers. without a hitch.

I also installed Adobe Photoshop CS2 and Illustrator CS2 and opened a couple
of files without any problems.

All I can say is that, I am very relieved FH10 works with Tiger and later on I
will try MX.

Davud
tasbean
2005-05-23 13:09:17 UTC
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The office update doesn't do anything to alleviate the issue of being able to
select multiple objects with the shift key, using the option key, & spacebar (I
would assume all shortcuts don't work). Looks like the MS Entourage issue
hasn't been fully resolved. I'd recommend NOT using Entourage with Freehand in
OS X Tiger until a suitable patch has been issued. I will most likely try doing
a clean install of the OS and all subsequent applications to see if it has
anything to do do with that. Wonderful...more downtime while I try to get this
thing to work correctly :-(
aherrera
2005-05-04 23:55:56 UTC
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If this is a new occurrence under Mac OS X 10.4, Tiger, then I suggest you
report it to the bug report form:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/?6213=10

I hope someone from MM is monitoring this list, but you never know ...

Judy Arndt



Will do! Thanks for the link.
davecc
2005-05-06 20:04:31 UTC
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For early adopters who may be experiencing issues with 10.4 (Tiger), there might be some hope with a rumoured update 10.4.1

David

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1058
laihuattan
2005-05-09 16:36:33 UTC
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Software and OS came with so many bugs nowadays.... It seems that consumers are
the ones suffering for it. Imagine funny stuffs happening to your files that
always worked... and the many hours lost all thanks to the upgraded NEW
software.
Angusdog
2005-05-16 03:21:39 UTC
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I'm pretty disappointed with this, as Freehand MX has been out for a while, and
Macromedia should have an update ready to correct these issues as some of them
are significant, and require me to take time (non-chargeable) to fix this. For
example, if they didn't want to release an update, they could have an automated
'file fixer' so I could upload legacy files and receive back an MX/Tiger
compatible file.

As it is, I'm trying to edit some legacy files sent through by another
designer - joined elements are causing it to crash and it's taken me hours to
find a solution. That's hundreds of dollars I won't see again...

Anyway, here's a workaround for people who can't find their older copies of
Freehand or have an earlier Freehand file but can't find the joined elements:
Open the legacy file in FH 10 (or 11.0 or 10.0.1 I believe but haven't tried),
export it as Illustator and open the Illustrator file in FH MX. I've had no
problems with this apart from type moving around a little. I'm working a little
slower but at least getting it done.

Incidentally, thanks for the advice Judy about deleting .plist files. Probably
a good place to look for a fix, but not in my case. And I can't be the only
user worried about using up activation 'lives' as I'm running on empty.
Deleting the wrong file might leave me with a non-activatable Freehand MXa. If
my hard drive crashes, I don't think I could reactivate it as I had some issues
with Macromedia when I upgraded to G5s and activating MXa. I must check with my
insurance broker about this, although I doubt I'd buy Freehand again. With the
merger on the cards, I'd jump camps and start learning Illustrator.

As you might have guessed, I'm pretty unhappy about this...
Bruce Kieffer
2005-05-16 13:17:02 UTC
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Post by Angusdog
joined elements are causing it to crash and it's taken me hours to
find a solution.
Please elaborate on what this problem is so when I and others upgrade to
Tiger, we know what to expect.

As for Macromedia fixing the problem, don't hold your breath. I have a
feeling they're all on summer vacation, or sitting around the office
chatting and eating pastries. Working on fixes to help you and me? Forget
about it!
Judy Arndt
2005-05-16 18:42:02 UTC
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Post by Angusdog
Incidentally, thanks for the advice Judy about deleting .plist files. Probably
a good place to look for a fix, but not in my case. And I can't be the only
user worried about using up activation 'lives' as I'm running on empty.
Deleting the wrong file might leave me with a non-activatable Freehand MXa.
The .plist files are simply Apple "preferences lists" (.plist). They have
nothing to do with MM product activation.

For example, the .plist keeps track of the way the application interacts
with the Mac OS Navigation Services, saving the name of the last folder used
in Open, Save, Export and Import dialogs as well as location of 'Print to
File' operations. If you trash the file, FH defaults to the Documents folder
for these operations until you've completed these operations, choosing other
folders.

I'm speaking of the file:
[user] /Library/Preferences/com.macromedia.freehand.11.plist

I've trashed my freehand plist file with no need for reactivation. It did
solve some 'crash on Print command' issues I had early on in FHMX/OS X (not
Tiger).

I don't know what your dispute with MM is, but if you are the legal owner of
a serial number, you should have no problems. I recently replaced the main
hard drive of my computer, reinstalled OSX and all applications, and had no
problem reactivating FH. I did have to reenter my serial number, though.

I will again post the location of the MM HotFix which solves activation
problems that might occur after a System upgrade.

http://www.macromedia.com/go/tn_18933

Judy Arndt
Angusdog
2005-05-18 09:03:49 UTC
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Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
Post by Angusdog
Incidentally, thanks for the advice Judy about deleting .plist files. Probably
a good place to look for a fix, but not in my case. And I can't be the only
user worried about using up activation 'lives' as I'm running on empty.
Deleting the wrong file might leave me with a non-activatable Freehand MXa.
The .plist files are simply Apple "preferences lists" (.plist). They have
nothing to do with MM product activation.

For example, the .plist keeps track of the way the application interacts
with the Mac OS Navigation Services, saving the name of the last folder used
in Open, Save, Export and Import dialogs as well as location of 'Print to
File' operations. If you trash the file, FH defaults to the Documents folder
for these operations until you've completed these operations, choosing other
folders.

I'm speaking of the file:
[user] /Library/Preferences/com.macromedia.freehand.11.plist

I've trashed my freehand plist file with no need for reactivation. It did
solve some 'crash on Print command' issues I had early on in FHMX/OS X (not
Tiger).

I don't know what your dispute with MM is, but if you are the legal owner of
a serial number, you should have no problems. I recently replaced the main
hard drive of my computer, reinstalled OSX and all applications, and had no
problem reactivating FH. I did have to reenter my serial number, though.

I will again post the location of the MM HotFix which solves activation
problems that might occur after a System upgrade.

http://www.macromedia.com/go/tn_18933

Judy Arndt





Thanks for the advice. Actually, I can live with the grid issue.

With regards the activation, I installed my copy of FHMX 11.0.2 on my G4 in my
studio and in my home studio, as allowed for in the licence.

I then upgraded to G5s (studio & home studio), installed FHMX 11.0.2 and wiped
the hard drives of the G4s before I sold them, not knowing I had to unactivate
FH. I had issues with the OS on my new G5, reinstalled the OS (Clean install),
and FH MX wouldn't activate as it had been activated too many times. A call to
MM got me up and running, but I was warned that they wouldn't do it again.
Since FH is NZ$660, this isn't something I want to run the risk of happening.

My biggest issue is with not opening FH10 files that have joined paths - it
will crash every time, vis:
Legacy files that contain joined objects cause FreeHand MX to crash.
topic update: September 2, 2004

Issue
When opening legacy files that contain a joined object the file will cause a
crash in FreeHand MX 11.0.2. This does not occur in FreeHand MX (version 11 and
11.0.1).

Mac OS 10.4.1 has not fixed the issue. The issues I have with FH are the only
significant ones I've struck since going to Tiger. MM would have know about
this issue and not warned anyone, although perhaps Apple discourages partners
from pointing out the issues. Who knows? Anyway, still trying to find
workarounds...
Asteri0n
2005-05-17 10:20:01 UTC
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Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
Acumowchek wrote:

Really makes you wonder if anyone on the FreeHand team was testing and
communicating with Apple during the beta-testing phase of Tiger.



"testing and communicating"? I think that's against Macromedia company rules.

It's much more cost effective to pass on the testing and communicating
overhead to customers.

A :(
davecc
2005-05-17 11:03:48 UTC
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Asteri0n,

Bingo! You hit the nail on the head.

Dave
Danny Whitehead
2005-05-18 08:26:01 UTC
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My guess is there hasn't been a 'Freehand Team' doing paid work at
Macromedia for quite some time.
--
Danny
Bruce Kieffer
2005-05-01 12:58:00 UTC
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I will be very surprised if we FHMX users ever see an update from MM to fix
these problems and to fix the numerous bugs that existed in FHMX prior to
10.4.
plummerdesign
2005-05-13 05:11:28 UTC
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Hey Pappy. My intent is never to be OS biased. They are only tools. Both
Apple and Microsoft get my money. It would be great to get nice, stable,
intuitive OS software out of the box everytime. From ANY OS developer! -Jeff
Carlos Pena
2005-05-13 13:30:14 UTC
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Use Linux.
Post by plummerdesign
Hey Pappy. My intent is never to be OS biased. They are only tools.
Both
Post by plummerdesign
Apple and Microsoft get my money. It would be great to get nice, stable,
intuitive OS software out of the box everytime. From ANY OS
developer! -Jeff
Robert Philpotts
2005-05-17 22:07:07 UTC
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Mac OSX 10.4.1 update now available,
anyone taken the plunge yet?

Robert
chuck78
2005-05-18 00:07:01 UTC
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I updated to 10.4.1 last night, but the object menu flashing cursor and 24pt
problem is still there. Man, that is an annoying bug. I am seriously thinking
about downgrading back to Panther. I didn't check any other issues yet.
lozza
2005-05-18 01:53:06 UTC
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Originally posted by: chuck78
I updated to 10.4.1 last night, but the object menu flashing cursor and 24pt
problem is still there. Man, that is an annoying bug. I am seriously thinking
about downgrading back to Panther. I didn't check any other issues yet.


Now using 10.4.1 and still:

1. My font panel will show the font name in the font panel size box after I
change the font on an existing block of text - the font box in the panel will
be blank!!! I click in the panel font box and type, say "Helvetica" and it
types it into the panel's text size box and the panel's text box goes blank!
Sometimes just changing the font size will revert the text block to Times
(which, of course appears in the size box).

2. At certain zoom levels, text appears to run slightly out of some containers
on the RH side with left aligned text.

3. Had one crash when switching to the Layers panel (grouped with the mixer
and transform panels - not the known issue of it crashing when in its default
grouping)

4. Crashes when pasting some existing FHMX vector artwork from one page to
another - only happening so far with one graphic.

5. Keyboard shortcut to turn on and off guides does not work and I must use
the layers panel.

6. Photoshop CS not being able to convert the pasteboard (containing FH data)
to a usable form (error message) crashed FHMX in the background.

Honestly, I expected worse :)
lozza
2005-05-18 02:50:37 UTC
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I find the Macromedia page that was linked to (at the top of this thread)
regarding Tiger interesting. First, I should not have expected to ever read
anything further about FHMX on the MM site. What point would there be for MM to
address emerging Tiger issues? Hey, how 'bout the emerging fact that your
company just got bought out and FHMX is history? Maybe Adobe want's them to
make one last update in case they're forced to sell it off. Even then, why
would they care or why would it make a difference?

Also, why in that statement would the writer mention how Apple and Macromedia
were working TOGETHER on the issue twice in so few sentences. Maybe MM is
blaming Apple. Maybe Apple's buying FreeHand.

Maybe it's just one poor sap left in the Richardson, TX office. His only
mission: to report (and only report) the problems with FH and upload the text
to the Macromedia site. I can just see the guy: hiding under a creaky desk.
Shaking. Sitting in broken glass. Cowering in a dark, dank corner of the
bullet-ridden office. A rat knaws on his leg. The bones of his co-workers are
piled up in the center of the room. The stench of death lingers in the air.
Defiantly he clings to the last blood and coffee-stained box that once held a
copy of the program known as: FreeHand. Slowly he raises a gun to his head...

Oh, sorry, where was I? Oh yeah...

I also like how they slam the end user, as is so often typical of MM, putting
the pain of FHMX bugs back on our shoulders: "Before choosing to install Mac OS
X 10.4 "Tiger", users should review the following known issues to determine if
they are relevant to their workflow." Translation: don't buy a new Mac because
FHMX sucks and may not work on the operating system that will arrive installed
on your computer. How typical. I still have self esteem issues from FH10. Hey
Macromedia: how about YOU get YOUR goddamn program ready for an OS release
BEFORE it comes out. Put that goddam developer version of Tiger in your
mother-fuckinng CD-ROM drive and USE IT.

I'm not bitter.
davecc
2005-05-18 09:41:56 UTC
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I also like how they slam the end user, as is so often typical of MM, putting
the pain of FHMX bugs back on our shoulders: "Before choosing to install Mac OS
X 10.4 "Tiger", users should review the following known issues to determine if
they are relevant to their workflow." Translation: don't buy a new Mac because
FHMX sucks and may not work on the operating system that will arrive installed
on your computer. How typical. I still have self esteem issues from FH10. Hey
Macromedia: how about YOU get YOUR goddamn program ready for an OS release
BEFORE it comes out. Put that goddam developer version of Tiger in your
mother-fuckinng CD-ROM drive and USE IT.

I'm not bitter.


I just bought a new G5 2.7 and it cannot be downgraded to Panther. Macromedia,
I am appealing to you again, please fix freehand or let us know what are you
plans of doing so.

I'm bitter
~ziggy~
2005-05-19 17:35:26 UTC
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n freehand MX our whole department was having the same problem. I have
discovered a work around for this problem.
? Open the keyboard shortcuts menu in the edit menu
? Find the snap to guides action. Under View > Guides > Snap to guides.
? In the Press new shortcut key box assign the action a new key sequence. (i
chose shift + command + ') on a mac. Any key command that is not already
assigned will also work.
? Click the assign button and click OK
? Now snap to guides will now turn off and on.

EDIT the same procedure also works for Grid problem too.
papacino
2005-05-26 08:18:21 UTC
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I cannot get Ziggy's tip about changing the keyboard shortcuts to work. My
default document has snap to grids and guides on. A workaround for me is to
open the original FreeHand defaults file where snap to grids is turned off (but
you can'turn them on). Grids and guide snapping seems to be set on a per
document basis, so another solution may be to drop back into 10.3.9 and make up
some templates with snapping and viewing of grids and guides on and off and
then open these when necessary in Tiger. I will try this later and report back.
FreeHandPioneer
2005-05-26 16:07:20 UTC
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Nor can I get Snap to Grid to work by changing keyboard shortcuts. I am also seeing on-screen rendering problems with Extrude.
mackerr
2005-09-24 11:01:01 UTC
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I got Ziggy's keyboard shortcut workaround to work, but you must leave the
standard keyboard shortcut in place and put in the new short cut as well. BTW I
am using the shortcuts for Freehand 9, not Macromedia Standard. This may make
no difference but I flag it up in case.
Dave McGregor
2005-06-01 04:46:23 UTC
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Very funny mate! You should be writing scripts for Wren and Stimpy. Laughing's better than crying I s'pose. Sounds to me like there's a pretty big market out there for disgruntled MX users. :D
artisans
2005-09-26 14:20:37 UTC
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Some of my hot keys have suddenly stopped working. They came on after a
restart for a few days but now they don't even come on. They are also
missing in Photoshop, but the key commands affected are
the command key to turn whatever tool you are using back to a selection
tool; (probably the most used key command, also not working in Photoshop)
command and space bar (for the magnifying g.); (Photoshop too)
the shift key to keep circles and squares in shape and to keep images in
proportion, and to pick up more than one item at once;
the option key to drag and copy. And the option key to turn the magnifying
plus to a minus (also not working in Photoshop).
Is this a system (Mac OS 10.3) problem or could it be Freehand MX?
Robbie
Judy Arndt
2005-09-26 17:05:17 UTC
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Some of my hot keys have suddenly stopped working. [...]
Is this a system (Mac OS 10.3) problem or could it be Freehand MX?
Part of the problem is likely caused by shortcuts for switching keyboard
layouts. Go to System Preferences>International>Input Menu>Options. Uncheck
the Shortcuts checkbox.

I can't comment the cause of the Shift key problem. You might check other
system or system extension shortcuts. Did you recently install any new
system-wide software such as virus checker, font manager, etc.?

Judy Arndt
vx220
2005-09-28 12:52:51 UTC
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Originally posted by: artisans
Some of my hot keys have suddenly stopped working. They came on after a
restart for a few days but now they don't even come on. They are also
missing in Photoshop, but the key commands affected are
the command key to turn whatever tool you are using back to a selection
tool; (probably the most used key command, also not working in Photoshop)
command and space bar (for the magnifying g.); (Photoshop too)
the shift key to keep circles and squares in shape and to keep images in
proportion, and to pick up more than one item at once;
the option key to drag and copy. And the option key to turn the magnifying
plus to a minus (also not working in Photoshop).
Is this a system (Mac OS 10.3) problem or could it be Freehand MX?
Robbie




I am sudennly having this problem also, I am suspecting its to do with 10.3
davecc
2005-09-27 21:34:51 UTC
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Rastermon,

Thanks for replying. I received my G5 2.7 right after posting as also
discovered that FH10 works like a charm. Fortunately, I never have to use Page
Setup as I have three Postscript printers which do not require me to use page
setup.

David
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